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Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay: A Step-by-Step Guide to Help You Decide Whether to Stay In or Get Out of Your Relationship Kindle Edition

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Mira Kirshenbaum (
I Love You, But I Don't Trust You), an international bestselling author and world-renowned therapist, draws on years of counseling experience to lead readers through relationship ambivalence. A careful line of 36 questions and self-analysis techniques designed to get to the heart of relationship and marriage problems. This straightforward and practical advice is designed for newer and older relationships, and presents a plethora of information and experience in a clear, concise manner.
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Trying to make the agonizing decision whether to get out of a troubled, potentially life-wrecking relationship is the specific ambivalence this book addresses. The reader is offered a focused way to deal with one critical issue at a time rather than sort endlessly through the whole messy bundle of emotional pros and cons. Kirshenbaum's expertise allows her to pinpoint the pertinent questions. The Boston psychotherapist, who does relationship counseling, offers a series of them, amplified with guidelines: "Power people poison passion"; "If your partner can't even see what it is about him that makes you want to get out, it's time to get out"; "If it never was very good, it'll never be very good." And threaded through the book, which is written in a sympathetic, chatty, accessible style, are validating anecdotes that dramatize how other people have experienced and responded to the same problems the reader is going through.
Copyright 1996 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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For those struggling to decide if a relationship is worth trying to save, Kirshenbaum (clinical director, Chestnut Hill Inst.) knows the issues and explains them clearly, presenting 36 well-phrased and well-ordered diagnostic questions, giving examples, and then succinctly offering guidelines to follow. Those who give certain answers to the diagnostic questions will be faced not only with a realization of how deep the problems may be but also with Kirshenbaum's repeated admonitions that "most people who answered the question the way you did were happy they left and unhappy they stayed." Her emphatic prescriptions for such nuanced problems, as well as her promise that "new hope is now entirely realistic for you" and assurance that "there are definite answers for you here," should make most readers wary. But Kirshenbaum does caution that "nothing in the book overrules what a good therapist...might tell you," and she will help readers sort out ambivalent feelings about relationships. For larger public library collections.?Susan E. Burdick, Reading, Pa.
Copyright 1996 Reed Business Information, Inc.

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  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B002JPGQ34
  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Plume; Reprint edition (July 1, 1997)
  • Publication date ‏ : ‎ July 1, 1997
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • File size ‏ : ‎ 1.7 MB
  • Text-to-Speech ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Screen Reader ‏ : ‎ Supported
  • Enhanced typesetting ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • X-Ray ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Word Wise ‏ : ‎ Enabled
  • Print length ‏ : ‎ 306 pages
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Many changes to my newly updated bio! Mira Kirshenbaum is clinical director of the Chestnut Hill Institute, a center for therapy and research in Los Angeles, and has been working with individual, couples, and families for more than forty years. She is the author and co-author of 15 other books, including the upcoming Why Couples Fight, plus best selling and/ or award winning books like Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay; Our Love Is Too Good to Feel So Bad; Everything Happens for a Reason; When Good People Have Affairs; The Emotional Energy Factor; and I Love You but I Don't Trust You.

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Customers find the book easy to read with clear explanations and examples. It provides a systematic way of evaluating relationships, helping readers analyze their situations and feelings. However, opinions vary on the pacing - some find it helpful for making heartfelt decisions about staying or going, while others say it helped solidify leaving someone.

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Customers find the book easy to read and understand. It provides clear explanations and examples, helping them make better decisions. They appreciate the scientific format that helps them consider emotional realities. The book also helps with reasoning, motivation, and self-esteem.

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Customers find the book helpful in elucidating their thoughts and feelings about marriage issues. They say it provides useful guidance and makes good points. The book helps them see their spouse and marriage from a new perspective.

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Customers find the book helpful for evaluating relationships. They say it provides a systematic way to analyze situations and feelings. The author has extensive experience in couple counseling and offers clear advice. The book validates their feelings and helps them stop second-guessing themselves. It provides practical, logical questions for readers to answer, clarifying the whole situation.

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Customers have different views on the book's pacing. Some find it helpful for making heartfelt decisions about staying or going, while others say it would have been better to stay. The book provides insights into what matters most for long-term relationships and doesn't encourage leaving.

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An invaluable, comprehensible, and thorough diagnostic tool
5 out of 5 stars
An invaluable, comprehensible, and thorough diagnostic tool
I thought I should wait a bit before writing this review. I was in that horrible twisted conflicted place of feeling sure I needed to leave my marriage, but not sure and dragged down by emotional exhaustion, inertia, and fear. This book asks important diagnostic questions, gives case study examples, and then sums up the conclusions you could draw in a guideline. If you really go chapter by chapter, answering the questions honestly for yourself, and do the recommended listing exercise, I feel sure anyone can parse through their feelings of love/despair/ambivalence/trappedness/uncertainty and come out on the other side.MIra Kirshenbaum doesn't presume to know anyone's truth or tolerances or what is too much to live with or too little to keep their marriage going - that's why it's so perfect as a tool. If this one thing is bad enough, that's reason enough even if all the other things are "fine." She uses this analogy (p. 60): "Suppose you were trying to decide whether to stay in your house or move. An incredible view or an ideal layout might make your house too good to leave and might outweigh a lot of negatives. But they don't counteract your house being sandwiched between a slaughterhouse and a cement factory. They don't counteract your house's foundation having been completely eaten away by termites. They don't counteract your living in a flood plane. It's a kind of rule in life. A lot of good stuff might make us willing to put up with some bad stuff. But any really terrible stuff has veto power over a ton of good stuff."Kirshenbaum leaves it up to you to put the good and bad on the scales and determine which direction they tip, but the chapters help you isolate separate issues which are too easily conflated or combined in the heat of resentment, anger, or fear.She says on page 165: "In a sense this is a book about happiness. And for you taking care of your happiness means envisioning a lifetime with your partner not changing or changing only slightly. Then be honest with yourself about whether what you see is just an annoyance or disappointment or if it's something you simply don't want to spend the rest of your life living with."A commenter on an advice blog I also turn to asked this question which I have never forgotten:If things stayed exactly like they are now, would you stay:Another month?Another 6 months?Another year?Another 5 years?How long?This book helps you tease out what your relationship is like right now, and helps you answer those questions. If even just reading "six months" makes you shake the bars of your cage, this book is for you. It got me out of my unhappy marriage, and I would recommend it to anyone feeling that churning awfulness in your chest, that cognitive dissonance between what you think you "should" do and what your gut is telling you that you need to do.Take notes, mark passages, talk to your friends, your therapist, but buy this book if you're stuck.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on January 1, 2025
    Having only read about 35% of this book, so far, I'm ready to proclaim that the content in this book has been healing and it helped me understand the underlying shakiness of my relationship with my wife; so, yes, I loved the detailed deep dive that the author provided about the "psychology of relationships."

    While I don't know yet whether my relationship with my wife is "too good to leave" or" too bad to stay," I do know that this book has helped me unpack my feelings and understand them!

    an update after 90%: the book just gets better and better; when my wife and I got married, we wanted to live parallel lives with our own money and decisions; but that gets old after a while. I really like how this book focuses on bringing people together so they can create a real relationship!

    My wife isn't a reader-- and she doesn't like to analyzing things, as much as I do, but that didn't stop me from texting her nuggets of wisdom from this book.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on May 4, 2021
    I thought I should wait a bit before writing this review. I was in that horrible twisted conflicted place of feeling sure I needed to leave my marriage, but not sure and dragged down by emotional exhaustion, inertia, and fear. This book asks important diagnostic questions, gives case study examples, and then sums up the conclusions you could draw in a guideline. If you really go chapter by chapter, answering the questions honestly for yourself, and do the recommended listing exercise, I feel sure anyone can parse through their feelings of love/despair/ambivalence/trappedness/uncertainty and come out on the other side.
    MIra Kirshenbaum doesn't presume to know anyone's truth or tolerances or what is too much to live with or too little to keep their marriage going - that's why it's so perfect as a tool. If this one thing is bad enough, that's reason enough even if all the other things are "fine." She uses this analogy (p. 60): "Suppose you were trying to decide whether to stay in your house or move. An incredible view or an ideal layout might make your house too good to leave and might outweigh a lot of negatives. But they don't counteract your house being sandwiched between a slaughterhouse and a cement factory. They don't counteract your house's foundation having been completely eaten away by termites. They don't counteract your living in a flood plane. It's a kind of rule in life. A lot of good stuff might make us willing to put up with some bad stuff. But any really terrible stuff has veto power over a ton of good stuff."

    Kirshenbaum leaves it up to you to put the good and bad on the scales and determine which direction they tip, but the chapters help you isolate separate issues which are too easily conflated or combined in the heat of resentment, anger, or fear.
    She says on page 165: "In a sense this is a book about happiness. And for you taking care of your happiness means envisioning a lifetime with your partner not changing or changing only slightly. Then be honest with yourself about whether what you see is just an annoyance or disappointment or if it's something you simply don't want to spend the rest of your life living with."
    A commenter on an advice blog I also turn to asked this question which I have never forgotten:
    If things stayed exactly like they are now, would you stay:
    Another month?
    Another 6 months?
    Another year?
    Another 5 years?
    How long?
    This book helps you tease out what your relationship is like right now, and helps you answer those questions. If even just reading "six months" makes you shake the bars of your cage, this book is for you. It got me out of my unhappy marriage, and I would recommend it to anyone feeling that churning awfulness in your chest, that cognitive dissonance between what you think you "should" do and what your gut is telling you that you need to do.
    Take notes, mark passages, talk to your friends, your therapist, but buy this book if you're stuck.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars
    An invaluable, comprehensible, and thorough diagnostic tool

    Reviewed in the United States on May 4, 2021
    I thought I should wait a bit before writing this review. I was in that horrible twisted conflicted place of feeling sure I needed to leave my marriage, but not sure and dragged down by emotional exhaustion, inertia, and fear. This book asks important diagnostic questions, gives case study examples, and then sums up the conclusions you could draw in a guideline. If you really go chapter by chapter, answering the questions honestly for yourself, and do the recommended listing exercise, I feel sure anyone can parse through their feelings of love/despair/ambivalence/trappedness/uncertainty and come out on the other side.
    MIra Kirshenbaum doesn't presume to know anyone's truth or tolerances or what is too much to live with or too little to keep their marriage going - that's why it's so perfect as a tool. If this one thing is bad enough, that's reason enough even if all the other things are "fine." She uses this analogy (p. 60): "Suppose you were trying to decide whether to stay in your house or move. An incredible view or an ideal layout might make your house too good to leave and might outweigh a lot of negatives. But they don't counteract your house being sandwiched between a slaughterhouse and a cement factory. They don't counteract your house's foundation having been completely eaten away by termites. They don't counteract your living in a flood plane. It's a kind of rule in life. A lot of good stuff might make us willing to put up with some bad stuff. But any really terrible stuff has veto power over a ton of good stuff."

    Kirshenbaum leaves it up to you to put the good and bad on the scales and determine which direction they tip, but the chapters help you isolate separate issues which are too easily conflated or combined in the heat of resentment, anger, or fear.
    She says on page 165: "In a sense this is a book about happiness. And for you taking care of your happiness means envisioning a lifetime with your partner not changing or changing only slightly. Then be honest with yourself about whether what you see is just an annoyance or disappointment or if it's something you simply don't want to spend the rest of your life living with."
    A commenter on an advice blog I also turn to asked this question which I have never forgotten:
    If things stayed exactly like they are now, would you stay:
    Another month?
    Another 6 months?
    Another year?
    Another 5 years?
    How long?
    This book helps you tease out what your relationship is like right now, and helps you answer those questions. If even just reading "six months" makes you shake the bars of your cage, this book is for you. It got me out of my unhappy marriage, and I would recommend it to anyone feeling that churning awfulness in your chest, that cognitive dissonance between what you think you "should" do and what your gut is telling you that you need to do.
    Take notes, mark passages, talk to your friends, your therapist, but buy this book if you're stuck.
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  • Reviewed in the United States on August 15, 2012
    I actually picked this book up after a relationship had already ended. It was one of those relationships with immense emotional highs and then huge emotional lows. After I ended it, I was miserable for almost a year. I got some closure through time and talking with friends and professionals, but this book definitely helped a lot. It showed me that my ex was never going to change. I mean, I knew that when I broke up with her (she actually said, "I don't think we should do things differently" and "I didn't think I'd have to adjust my life [for our relationship]"), but this book just helped me see that some people are truly like that. I'm one of those people that thinks all issues can be solved, some deep and honest conversations can solve anything, that some compromise can go a long way, and so it drove me crazy that the relationship had failed. I exhausted myself with trying so hard to understand her and make it work.

    I'd never really been around somebody so stubborn and uncompromising, and so I kept thinking I needed to try harder to see her side, that I was the one being too demanding (i.e., we would go weeks at a time without seeing each other or really talking and I wanted her to make more of an effort into us seeing each other -- we were dating for a few months by this point and lived 5 minutes away from each other). She convinced me that I was crazy, when really, I had needs and she consistently showed me and told me that my needs almost always ranked lower than her wants. It reminded me of arguing with Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olbermann.

    If you tell someone, "Hey, this is bothering me. Can we work on it?" And they say, "It doesn't really bother me, though. Let me tell you my feelings on it. There, don't you feel better now?", then it's not all that healthy (at least for me -- and that's key, since I'm one half the relationship). If someone tells you, hey, this thing you do makes me feel bad, if you truly like or love them, then you accommodate them (sure, tell your side of the story if you want, but there must also be some sort of significant, proactive compromise on your part). And so, this book helped me see that there truly are people that no matter how much you try to change yourself, they will not even meet you halfway. I'm sure there is someone much more compatible for her. And I know without a doubt, there is someone far better for me. For a long time, I regretted that it ended, but then I read this book, and it confirmed so many things. It made me proud to have stood up for my own needs, to have set my own boundaries and enforced them. Now, I'm thankful that she is gone and out of my life. I am much happier and healthier with her as my past instead of my present or future.

    This book is not a silver bullet. It's just a good way to think through certain issues and get some clarity. One final thing, I actually read this book during another relationship and it didn't clarify things as much as I had hoped because the relationship was much more on the Too Good to leave side than the Too Bad to Stay side. So, I think it may actually be more helpful at clarifying when a relationship is bad, than when it is good. Really, I do agree to some extent with people that think its slanted with a break-up bias. I mean, one of the first questions is : was the relationship all that good when it was at its best? For one, memories are notoriously unreliable. Secondly, what does good mean, exactly? Just the opposite of bad? Or transcendent? Or comfortable? So really, I think the book's good for helping you get out of a bad relationship that you don't have the courage or strength to end, but not so good at telling you what to do about an okay relationship. Hence, the four stars.
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Top reviews from other countries

  • Lorena S.
    5.0 out of 5 stars Really good information
    Reviewed in Germany on March 20, 2024
    Real life situations are always more complicated and nuanced, but still, this book offers useful info that can definitely help a bit when deciding whether to stay or leave a relationship.
  • Amanda Alvorada
    5.0 out of 5 stars An absolute worth-it purchase!
    Reviewed in Canada on February 25, 2021
    After many years of difficulty making a decision on my relationship--I didn't know what to do. I didn't even trust my ability to make a decision like this. I read a number of books, went to counselling, and they didn't help.

    I purchased this book, and it was amazing. Within two days I felt I finally knew the answer to my question and was able to go through with a change in my life after so much indecision.

    Today, two years after I made my decision and put it into force--I am still not looking back. The guidance in this book was sound, firm, and helped me make a great decision that felt like it was my own.
  • David Fox
    5.0 out of 5 stars A rare book that packs a punch
    Reviewed in Australia on January 26, 2024
    I very rarely write book reviews and I have in my twenty years as a psychologist and couples counsellor read many many books.

    This book by Mira Kirshenbaum is eloquently written and full of useful and thoughtfully provoking ideas on how to identify whether you are in a relationship that is worth fighting for or running for your life.

    So great questions and guidelines. A very useful book for anyone caught up in "relationship ambiguity".

    Highly recommend.
  • Blue Eyes
    5.0 out of 5 stars Really helpful!
    Reviewed in Japan on August 11, 2019
    This book helped me through some difficult decisions. Thanks.
  • Aalia
    3.0 out of 5 stars Caveat
    Reviewed in India on July 19, 2016
    I would warn people before reading this. No relationship is perfect and the rules given by the author may be a bit too simplistic. However there is some good advice and assistance especially for people in abusive relationships.

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